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Google+ Scares Me

2011-07-11 17:35:35
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Really, truly. Have you read their terms of service? Let me point specifically to the issues I have:

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.

11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these actions.

11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license.

Do you read that? You grant Google *in perpetuity* (translation: forever and a day) the rights to any content you post. In addition, you grant them the right to disseminate or share said content with any other companies or organizations Google deems should have it.

OK, this means that your privacy is gone. Your content is public, whether you want it to be or not.

So, don't be send me an invite. I won't be joining you anytime soon.

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Bob: Re: Kristen Fife: Google+ Scares Me
2011-07-12 10:05:40

The T&C are no different than any other similar platform where you are uploading user generated content and tapping into a network delivery system.

You must grant a license (typical) for this to happen, you retain copyright (that is key and very good that it's spelled out).

If you do not want to grant a non-exclusive license, then you should keep that material on a private site/domain that you own and control.

The price of tapping into anyone's free network is a non-exclusive license. It's not intended to be for everything. Only somethings. 750,000,000 people are "just fine and dandy" with Facebook selling their data to 3rd parties and now engaging in facial recognition technologies. It's a matter of trust. At this point, I trust Google far more than the others out there.

Kristen Fife: Re: Kristen Fife: Google+ Scares Me
2011-07-20 13:26:13

My biggest issue with Google is the "in perpetuity" clause. Facebook T & C state that if you delete content, it is gone except if others are using it:

1. For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos ("IP content"), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook ("IP License"). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it.
2. When you delete IP content, it is deleted in a manner similar to emptying the recycle bin on a computer. However, you understand that removed content may persist in backup copies for a reasonable period of time (but will not be available to others).

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